I spent the last four days building a new Fedora 10, x86-64 server for video editing based on programs available through the RPM Fusion repository. I'll post something soon about that whole process, which required more work and frustration than expected. However, my primary goal was to create a flexible and solid Cinelerra video editing rig.
Update 2009/02/15
Here's a post on how to build Cinelerra from source on Fedora 10, x86-64
*** end update ***
Testing the New System
In order to verify my new build, I needed to test high quality, rendered output from Cinelerra. More specifically, I wanted to test formats that required no external multiplexing (muxing). This will save me time in the future.
Assumptions
Also, note the test will be conducted against a larger resolution, 720P project. This will influence the playback ability of some of the programs.
Testing Procedure
During the testing phase, I was able to put Cinelerra's batch processing feature to use. This is very nice if you need to render large masses of files. Especially nice if you want to repeat or standardize that process across different Linux distributions.
Thinking more about this, it might be a boon to the cvs.cinelerra.org community if I made the XML of the batch list available to the community. That way, we could standardize the testing of output on different Linux distributions. At the end of the day, we could say things like "mplayer on SUSE 11 doesn't playback a 720P Quicktime rendered from Cinelerra that uses MPEG4 video compression with AAC audio encoding. However, that same file does work in mplayer on Fedora 10." So, it would be helpful to the QA process. I will bring this up as an idea to the community. Here is my latest effort at making the batch render feature part of the Cinelerra testing process:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2010/01/batch-render-redux.html
Source File
The original video is 21 seconds long and is in 720P format, 1280x720 at 29.97fps.
In order to test the new operating system, I exported various combinations of audio and video formats, choosing fixed bitrates that seemed appropriate given the resolution of the source project:
I tested the output in standard Linux media players (vlc/mplayer/ffplay/totem), as well as reimported them into Cinelerra.
Results
In order to make it easy for people to comprehend the results, I've put together this graphic:
Using a stop light analogy, green means that the file plays with no problem. So, if you want to know the "best" or "good", compatible formats to use in Linux media players and Cinelerra, go for the green. Red means the file doesn't play at all. And yellow means that the file plays, but plays with some problem. For instance, the audio may be out of sync or stutters, or the video plays but maybe at the wrong resolution. Be advised that my system is fairly powerful, so your mileage may vary:
* Dell SC1430, dual quad core, 1.6Ghz, 2GB RAM
* RAID0 sys/working drive, RAID1 storage drive
* NVidia 8800GT video card
Observations
JPEG and MPEG-4 Quicktimes seem to work well and have the side benefit of being re-usable within Cinelerra. MPEG-4 rendering is unbelievably quick. H264 direct out of Cinelerra seems not to work at all in most cases. There was a tie for the file type with the widest compatibility among the chosen media players: Ogg/Vorbis and surprisingly, Microsoft MPEG4 using twos complement audio.
It is interesting to note the varying file sizes of the output from Cinelerra: Besides the uncompressed formats, Motion JPEG A creates the largest file sizes, while either of the MPEG4 formats are the most space efficient. Given the chart above, this is an important data point that video editors will be able to consider when selecting a particular format.
Conclusion
Though it is powerful, Cinelerra has been somewhat crippled by new users' ability to get usable content out of Cinelerra. I think this chart will improve that situation, even if it has only been proven out on Fedora 10, 64-bit. In that light, it would be interesting to see the same chart from an alternate Linux distribution. With my source Cinelerra and batch process EDL files, it should be easy to replicate the procedure on another system. I'd be happy to share them if an interested party wants to drop me a line.
Finally, I realize there are some missing file types like avi container, MPEG2 program and transport stream formats. The MPEG2 formates generally require external muxing and thus, were off the list for this test. However, I will try to test the at some point.
enjoy,
The Mule
Saturday, December 20, 2008
Friday, December 12, 2008
Fedora 9 Cinelerra deps, ATrpms note
Some people have complained of incompatibilities with Fedora and ATrpms. Instead, they recommend using the better supported RPMFusion, the repository that has merged all the other repositories for Fedora. This is a good idea; however, I have not yet had a chance to test the Fusion RPMs.
Update 2009/02/15
Here's a post on how to build Cinelerra from source on Fedora 10, x86-64
*** end update ***
I'm using ATrpms for a small number of Cinelerra dependencies, sixteen programs in all (listed below). I've given my new Fedora 9 system a fairly good break in test and have not found any issues arising from my use of ATrpms.
12/17/2008 Note regarding my use of ATrpms
So often in this topsy-turvy world of new distributions and funky repositories, the moment you write that an install is without problems, that old devil fate creeps up on you and proves you wrong.
Such is the case with my recent Cinelerra build from source using ATrpms dependencies. The whole day last Sunday was shot with a nasty Cinelerra hang that was only resolved when I removed the ATrpms repo programs, installed the RPM Fusion repository and recompiled Cinelerra. I'll follow up with a more detailed explanation but for now, The Mule would like to humbly apologize to anyone he led astray by recommending ATrpms.
On the positive side, unexpected problems usually lead one to find new solutions and better ways of doing things. So that's the upside of this mess.
end note
Here are the packages that I installed from ATrpms (and subsequently removed) on my Fedora 9, x86-64 system:
I've put my system through the following tests:
-edit 720P project in Cinelerra
-via Cinelerra's YUV4MPEG streamer and mpeg2enc, export 720P resolution MPEG2 video
-from Cinelerra, export MPEG, Layer II audio
-using mplex, combine MPEG2 video and MPEG Layer II audio stream into MPEG-PS
-using VLC, convert program stream into MPEG-TS
-using FFMPEG, convert transport stream into DVD
-using FFMPEG, convert DVD file into iTunes compatible format
This is my normal workflow. Nothing seems to have broken in this workflow, so I think ATrpms has not effected my particular install.
Again, my apologies if anyone had tried using ATrpms based on my advice.
the mule
Update 2009/02/15
Here's a post on how to build Cinelerra from source on Fedora 10, x86-64
*** end update ***
I'm using ATrpms for a small number of Cinelerra dependencies, sixteen programs in all (listed below). I've given my new Fedora 9 system a fairly good break in test and have not found any issues arising from my use of ATrpms.
12/17/2008 Note regarding my use of ATrpms
So often in this topsy-turvy world of new distributions and funky repositories, the moment you write that an install is without problems, that old devil fate creeps up on you and proves you wrong.
Such is the case with my recent Cinelerra build from source using ATrpms dependencies. The whole day last Sunday was shot with a nasty Cinelerra hang that was only resolved when I removed the ATrpms repo programs, installed the RPM Fusion repository and recompiled Cinelerra. I'll follow up with a more detailed explanation but for now, The Mule would like to humbly apologize to anyone he led astray by recommending ATrpms.
On the positive side, unexpected problems usually lead one to find new solutions and better ways of doing things. So that's the upside of this mess.
end note
Here are the packages that I installed from ATrpms (and subsequently removed) on my Fedora 9, x86-64 system:
Name : ffmpeg
Version : 0.4.9
Release : 28_r15845.fc9
--
Name : fftw
Version : 3.1.2
Release : 11.fc9
--
Name : fftw-devel
Version : 3.1.2
Release : 11.fc9
--
Name : freetype-static
Version : 2.3.5
Release : 4.fc9.cubbi2
--
Name : lame
Version : 3.98.2
Release : 19.1.fc9
--
Name : libdvdcss
Version : 1.2.10
Release : 5.fc9
--
Name : libdvdcss-devel
Version : 1.2.10
Release : 5.fc9
--
Name : libdvdcss2
Version : 1.2.10
Release : 5.fc9
--
Name : libdvdnav4
Version : 0.1.10
Release : 2.fc9
--
Name : libraw1394
Version : 1.3.0
Release : 8_11.fc9
--
Name : libraw1394
Version : 1.3.0
Release : 8_11.fc9
--
Name : libraw1394-devel
Version : 1.3.0
Release : 8_11.fc9
--
Name : libraw1394_8
Version : 1.3.0
Release : 8_11.fc9
--
Name : libraw1394_8
Version : 1.3.0
Release : 8_11.fc9
--
Name : x264
Version : 0.65
Release : 8_20081108.2245.fc9
--
Name : x264-devel
Version : 0.65
Release : 8_20081108.2245.fc9
I've put my system through the following tests:
-edit 720P project in Cinelerra
-via Cinelerra's YUV4MPEG streamer and mpeg2enc, export 720P resolution MPEG2 video
-from Cinelerra, export MPEG, Layer II audio
-using mplex, combine MPEG2 video and MPEG Layer II audio stream into MPEG-PS
-using VLC, convert program stream into MPEG-TS
-using FFMPEG, convert transport stream into DVD
-using FFMPEG, convert DVD file into iTunes compatible format
This is my normal workflow. Nothing seems to have broken in this workflow, so I think ATrpms has not effected my particular install.
Again, my apologies if anyone had tried using ATrpms based on my advice.
the mule
Sunday, November 23, 2008
minor problems from new Fedora 9
I'm glad I took the time to rerun my main encoding script, as it showed a number of errors due to changes between Fedora 7 and Fedora 9. The first four I've encountered are specific to VLC; the last couple are problems with the latest FFMPEG install.
VLC Problems
1) permissions issue
This is not necessarily a problem with a change in Fedora, just a problem with how I've reorganized some of my videos to be owned by a different user. When I ran VLC to convert one of the files, I got this error:
[00000436] access_output_file access out error: cannot open `20081123.m2t' (Permission denied)
[00000434] stream_out_standard stream out error: no suitable sout access module for `file/ts://20081123.m2t'
At least the text of the error was not ambiguous..Permission Denied! :) Once I identified the permissions problem and granted appropriate privileges to the file, this message went away. A good option when running VLC is to run it with the -vvv verbose switch in order to get full debug stream on what is going on.
2) command line VLC doesn't accept quit anymore
VLC used to quit properly when my old script used to look like this:
vlc input.ps --sout '#duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=ts,dst="output.m2t"}}' vlc:quit
VLC's authors must now be enforcing command line syntax, as there now needs to be two slashes after the colon in the quit directive. So the following works again:
vlc input.ps --sout '#duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=ts,dst="output.m2t"}}' vlc://quit
Update 12/13/2008
3) Can't run VLC as root anymore
When I tried to run VLC from a script as root, I got this error:
VLC is not supposed to be run as root. Sorry.
If you need to use real-time priorities and/or privileged TCP ports
you can use vlc-wrapper (make sure it is Set-UID root first and
cannot be run by non-trusted users first).
For security reasons, it is probably better that VLC enforces this. I addressed the issue in two ways:
1) login as a non-privileged user to run VLC
2) if I need to run VLC as root, I will use the "su" command to run the command using a different user's privileges. Using my non-privileged "mule" user, the syntax of the command is something like the below. I am using command line VLC, which is started by "cvlc":
su mule -c "cvlc input.ps --sout '#duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=ts,dst=output.mp4}}' vlc://quit"
In either case, I made sure that all my files are owned by or at least accessible by the user that runs VLC.
end update
4) Some obscure dbus error
[00000415] inhibit interface error: Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daemon: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
Looking up this error in Google points to a number of threads regarding the reinstall of dbus message bus. However, this error doesn't inhibit my ability to convert video, so I'm not going to do anything about this error right now.
5) a bunch of other GUI related errors
[00000415] main interface error: no suitable interface module [00000001] main libvlc error: interface "inhibit,none" initialization failed
[00000001] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
No protocol specified
[00000421] qt4 interface error: Could not connect to X server
No protocol specified
[00000421] skins2 interface error: Cannot open display
[00000421] skins2 interface error: cannot initialize OSFactory
Even with these errors, VLC does start, though in remote control mode only. You can quit out of this mode by typing "quit" after the line that reads:
Remote control interface initialized. Type `help' for help.
Since I am running VLC as part of a command script, I changed the script to use the command-line version of VLC, CVLC as below:
cvlc input.ps --sout '#duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=ts,dst="output.m2t"}}' vlc://quit
Note that the quit directive is still "vlc://quit". Eventually, I do want to run VLC's GUI mode, so I will have to return to fixing this error.
FFMPEG Problems: library naming
Running this FFMPEG command on my shiny new Fedora 9 system:
ffmpeg -i input.mpg -threads 8 -f mov -vcodec mpeg4 -qscale 3 -s 320x180 -r 29.97 -aspect 16:9 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ar 48000 -ab 448k output.mov
Gave me this error:
Unknown encoder 'aac'
Researching on Google led me to this thread, which stated that the proper syntax is to now using the name of the library, libfaac:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=46958.
The version of FFMPEG that I had been using with Fedora 7 was SVN version 9975. With Fedora 9, that is revised to SVN version 12135. During the interim between the two versions, command syntax now requires full library names.
So using the proper library name 'libfaac' fixed the issue and allowed ffmpeg to continue:
ffmpeg -i input.mpg -threads 8 -f mov -vcodec mpeg4 -qscale 3 -s 320x180 -r 29.97 -aspect 16:9 -acodec libfaac -ac 2 -ar 48000 -ab 448k output.mov
The same error occurred with my command to encode a file to h264 format:
ffmpeg -y -i input.mpg -v 1 -threads 8 -vcodec h264 -b 250k -bt 175k -refs 1 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -me full -subq 6 -me_range 21 -chroma 1 -slice 2 -bf 0 -level 30 -g 300 -keyint_min 30 -sc_threshold 40 -rc_eq 'blurCplx^(1-qComp)' -qcomp 0.7 -qmax 51 -qdiff 4 -i_qfactor 0.71428572 -maxrate 450k -bufsize 2M -cmp 1 -s 720x480 -acodec libfaac -ab 160k -ar 48000 -ac 2 -f mp4 -pass 2 -threads 8 output.mp4
I received this error:
Unknown encoder 'h264'
The solution was to simply replace 'h264' with 'libx264' in the command line:
Silliness!
the mule
VLC Problems
1) permissions issue
This is not necessarily a problem with a change in Fedora, just a problem with how I've reorganized some of my videos to be owned by a different user. When I ran VLC to convert one of the files, I got this error:
[00000436] access_output_file access out error: cannot open `20081123.m2t' (Permission denied)
[00000434] stream_out_standard stream out error: no suitable sout access module for `file/ts://20081123.m2t'
At least the text of the error was not ambiguous..Permission Denied! :) Once I identified the permissions problem and granted appropriate privileges to the file, this message went away. A good option when running VLC is to run it with the -vvv verbose switch in order to get full debug stream on what is going on.
2) command line VLC doesn't accept quit anymore
VLC used to quit properly when my old script used to look like this:
vlc input.ps --sout '#duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=ts,dst="output.m2t"}}' vlc:quit
VLC's authors must now be enforcing command line syntax, as there now needs to be two slashes after the colon in the quit directive. So the following works again:
vlc input.ps --sout '#duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=ts,dst="output.m2t"}}' vlc://quit
Update 12/13/2008
3) Can't run VLC as root anymore
When I tried to run VLC from a script as root, I got this error:
VLC is not supposed to be run as root. Sorry.
If you need to use real-time priorities and/or privileged TCP ports
you can use vlc-wrapper (make sure it is Set-UID root first and
cannot be run by non-trusted users first).
For security reasons, it is probably better that VLC enforces this. I addressed the issue in two ways:
1) login as a non-privileged user to run VLC
2) if I need to run VLC as root, I will use the "su" command to run the command using a different user's privileges. Using my non-privileged "mule" user, the syntax of the command is something like the below. I am using command line VLC, which is started by "cvlc":
su mule -c "cvlc input.ps --sout '#duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=ts,dst=output.mp4}}' vlc://quit"
In either case, I made sure that all my files are owned by or at least accessible by the user that runs VLC.
end update
4) Some obscure dbus error
[00000415] inhibit interface error: Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daemon: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
Looking up this error in Google points to a number of threads regarding the reinstall of dbus message bus. However, this error doesn't inhibit my ability to convert video, so I'm not going to do anything about this error right now.
5) a bunch of other GUI related errors
[00000415] main interface error: no suitable interface module [00000001] main libvlc error: interface "inhibit,none" initialization failed
[00000001] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
No protocol specified
[00000421] qt4 interface error: Could not connect to X server
No protocol specified
[00000421] skins2 interface error: Cannot open display
[00000421] skins2 interface error: cannot initialize OSFactory
Even with these errors, VLC does start, though in remote control mode only. You can quit out of this mode by typing "quit" after the line that reads:
Remote control interface initialized. Type `help' for help.
Since I am running VLC as part of a command script, I changed the script to use the command-line version of VLC, CVLC as below:
cvlc input.ps --sout '#duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=ts,dst="output.m2t"}}' vlc://quit
Note that the quit directive is still "vlc://quit". Eventually, I do want to run VLC's GUI mode, so I will have to return to fixing this error.
FFMPEG Problems: library naming
Running this FFMPEG command on my shiny new Fedora 9 system:
ffmpeg -i input.mpg -threads 8 -f mov -vcodec mpeg4 -qscale 3 -s 320x180 -r 29.97 -aspect 16:9 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ar 48000 -ab 448k output.mov
Gave me this error:
Unknown encoder 'aac'
Researching on Google led me to this thread, which stated that the proper syntax is to now using the name of the library, libfaac:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=46958.
The version of FFMPEG that I had been using with Fedora 7 was SVN version 9975. With Fedora 9, that is revised to SVN version 12135. During the interim between the two versions, command syntax now requires full library names.
So using the proper library name 'libfaac' fixed the issue and allowed ffmpeg to continue:
ffmpeg -i input.mpg -threads 8 -f mov -vcodec mpeg4 -qscale 3 -s 320x180 -r 29.97 -aspect 16:9 -acodec libfaac -ac 2 -ar 48000 -ab 448k output.mov
The same error occurred with my command to encode a file to h264 format:
ffmpeg -y -i input.mpg -v 1 -threads 8 -vcodec h264 -b 250k -bt 175k -refs 1 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -me full -subq 6 -me_range 21 -chroma 1 -slice 2 -bf 0 -level 30 -g 300 -keyint_min 30 -sc_threshold 40 -rc_eq 'blurCplx^(1-qComp)' -qcomp 0.7 -qmax 51 -qdiff 4 -i_qfactor 0.71428572 -maxrate 450k -bufsize 2M -cmp 1 -s 720x480 -acodec libfaac -ab 160k -ar 48000 -ac 2 -f mp4 -pass 2 -threads 8 output.mp4
I received this error:
Unknown encoder 'h264'
The solution was to simply replace 'h264' with 'libx264' in the command line:
Silliness!
the mule
Saturday, November 22, 2008
video distribution and the blogosphere
After having this blog for a few years now, I've been thinking about the entire chain of events that occur when producing a video. So I mapped out the different components of this production workflow in relation to distribution and marketing via the blogosphere.
The Blogging Ecosystem
In the clickable map below, I've listed the major steps in the production chain, as well as specific subjects within each step. Go ahead and click on anything in the picture and it will take you to a summary of that particular topic or a direct resource on the web. Some of this is old hat for readers, but it was helpful to see it holistically, as an ecosystem of sorts. The flow represents a way to distribute one's video creations (content) over the web and get some eyes looking at that content.
(the graphic is hotlinked, so click on a subject for further investigation)
Summary
In general, the white boxes represent steps that the producer is responsible for; the blue box represent actions taken by the consumers of the content. The main steps are:
-having an idea for a video and storyboarding (not shown)
-acquiring source content (video/audio/imagery)
-bringing the idea to life via a production workflow
-distributing that video via the web
-syndicating the content via rss feed
-having individuals consume that feed
-monitoring and analyzing the consumption
-promoting and marketing of content
-perhaps making some money one day
Detail
If you click on any part of the graph, you'll be able to dig down further into the resources I've provided. As it will require some explaining, I'll probably do a follow up video to this graphic.
Enjoy!
The Blogging Ecosystem
In the clickable map below, I've listed the major steps in the production chain, as well as specific subjects within each step. Go ahead and click on anything in the picture and it will take you to a summary of that particular topic or a direct resource on the web. Some of this is old hat for readers, but it was helpful to see it holistically, as an ecosystem of sorts. The flow represents a way to distribute one's video creations (content) over the web and get some eyes looking at that content.
(the graphic is hotlinked, so click on a subject for further investigation)
Summary
In general, the white boxes represent steps that the producer is responsible for; the blue box represent actions taken by the consumers of the content. The main steps are:
-having an idea for a video and storyboarding (not shown)
-acquiring source content (video/audio/imagery)
-bringing the idea to life via a production workflow
-distributing that video via the web
-syndicating the content via rss feed
-having individuals consume that feed
-monitoring and analyzing the consumption
-promoting and marketing of content
-perhaps making some money one day
Detail
If you click on any part of the graph, you'll be able to dig down further into the resources I've provided. As it will require some explaining, I'll probably do a follow up video to this graphic.
Enjoy!
Friday, November 21, 2008
burning blu-ray discs on Linux
If I actually get a camera that can do 1080p, I'm going to have to have some means of distribution.
Update 2009/01/11
Gosh darnit, I DID get a new cam! Hooray!
*** end update ***
Blu ray seems the best bet. For testing, I'd opt to use the Blu ray rewriteable format, BD-RE.
From a few hours of research, these facts appear:
1) It IS possible to write blu ray data discs via the dvd+rw-tools. See Technical discussion and Burning links below
2) The burning of blu ray video discs to be played in consumer players may be possible in the dvd+rw-tools, but should be definetly possible in the Nero 3 product for Linux (around $25). This bears testing.
*** Update 2010/11/04 ***
Dark Shakiri has created the world's first free blu-ray encoder:
http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/archives/328
From the comments, I hear tell that it actually WORKS too!
*** end update ***
Final Thoughts
Prices are still high: $300-$400 for an internal burner and roughly $10 per disc. Testing these options out will be essential.
the mule
Update 2011/02/27
AVS HD 709 - Blu-ray & MP4 Calibration
*** end update ***
Update 2011/01/04
http://www.x264bluray.com/
Allowed Resolutions/Framerates
*** end update ***
Blu Ray US site
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/bluray_site.htm
Technical discussion of dvd+rw-tools methodology
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/
Burning BD-RE disks with dvd+rw-tools
http://forums.aliensoup.com/showthread.php?t=24180
Untested open source blu ray authoring tools *
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Blu-ray-video-authoring-tools-28112.shtml
* UDF generator, does not generate ISO9660 structures
Update 1/23/2009
Looks like these tools compile under 32-bit systems, but not 64-bit systems. A user (E Chalaron) got this to work under 32-bit Ubuntu Feisty. Thanks E!
*** end update ***
Nero 3 Linux product
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f104/blu-ray-burning-hw-support-236218/
http://www.burnworld.com/software/cdrburning/linux.htm
http://www.nero.com/enu/linux3.html?NeroSID=75c7543438b27626c11913f2ed0c329e
Recent prices
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f142/blu-ray-blank-media-player-recorder-prices-japan-254787/
Hardware
http://www.addonics.com/support/application_notes/app_hd.asp
LG BE06LU11 Blu-ray
LG GGW-H10N Blu-ray/HD-DVD
LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray
Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray
Playing BluRay/HDDVD under Ubuntu
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
Other Options
Perhaps run HD DVD Fab under Wine
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763837
Google, dammit
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=burn+blu+ray+video+in+linux
Other BluRay references
http://sourceforge.net/projects/blurayauthor/
Update 2009/01/11
Gosh darnit, I DID get a new cam! Hooray!
*** end update ***
Blu ray seems the best bet. For testing, I'd opt to use the Blu ray rewriteable format, BD-RE.
From a few hours of research, these facts appear:
1) It IS possible to write blu ray data discs via the dvd+rw-tools. See Technical discussion and Burning links below
2) The burning of blu ray video discs to be played in consumer players may be possible in the dvd+rw-tools, but should be definetly possible in the Nero 3 product for Linux (around $25). This bears testing.
*** Update 2010/11/04 ***
Dark Shakiri has created the world's first free blu-ray encoder:
http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/archives/328
From the comments, I hear tell that it actually WORKS too!
*** end update ***
Final Thoughts
Prices are still high: $300-$400 for an internal burner and roughly $10 per disc. Testing these options out will be essential.
the mule
Update 2011/02/27
AVS HD 709 - Blu-ray & MP4 Calibration
*** end update ***
Update 2011/01/04
http://www.x264bluray.com/
Allowed Resolutions/Framerates
*** end update ***
Blu Ray US site
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/bluray_site.htm
Technical discussion of dvd+rw-tools methodology
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/
Burning BD-RE disks with dvd+rw-tools
http://forums.aliensoup.com/showthread.php?t=24180
Untested open source blu ray authoring tools *
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Blu-ray-video-authoring-tools-28112.shtml
* UDF generator, does not generate ISO9660 structures
Update 1/23/2009
Looks like these tools compile under 32-bit systems, but not 64-bit systems. A user (E Chalaron) got this to work under 32-bit Ubuntu Feisty. Thanks E!
*** end update ***
Nero 3 Linux product
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f104/blu-ray-burning-hw-support-236218/
http://www.burnworld.com/software/cdrburning/linux.htm
http://www.nero.com/enu/linux3.html?NeroSID=75c7543438b27626c11913f2ed0c329e
Recent prices
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f142/blu-ray-blank-media-player-recorder-prices-japan-254787/
Hardware
http://www.addonics.com/support/application_notes/app_hd.asp
LG BE06LU11 Blu-ray
LG GGW-H10N Blu-ray/HD-DVD
LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray
Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray
Playing BluRay/HDDVD under Ubuntu
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
Other Options
Perhaps run HD DVD Fab under Wine
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763837
Google, dammit
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=burn+blu+ray+video+in+linux
Other BluRay references
http://sourceforge.net/projects/blurayauthor/
Monday, November 17, 2008
Fedora 9 x86-64, Cinelerra dependencies
I'm happy to report that the installation of Fedora 9 x86-64 went very smoothly tonight. I yanked down a DVD install from here via torrent. I then burnt an ISO dvd of Fedora 9 using my own instructions here. From the perspective of a Cinelerra advocate, the biggest change from Fedora 7 is that Fedora 9 is more reliant on the ATrpms repository for Cinelerra source code dependencies.
Update 2009/02/15
Since writing this article, I've had very strange crashes and hangs from Cinelerra on Fedora 9. So I've moved on to using Fedora 10 x86-64. The general steps listed below to install Cinelerra still apply, but here's a post that summarizes the steps on how to build Cinelerra from source on Fedora 10, x86-64
*** end update ***
Advice on the Use of Repositories
As a general note, use as few repositories as possible for the various Cinelerra dependencies. Mixing many repos will result in a compile that doesn't work or worse, poor performance or odd behavior in Cinelerra resulting from slightly incompatible libraries. I've lived both and the latter is far worse because you'll spend hours or days pulling your hair out when, in the end, you've got some natty problem that only occurs between this library or that library. Ugh! I get the shivers just thinking about it!
Building Cinelerra from Source?
If you're using Cinelerra on Fedora 9 and want to build Cinelerra from source, here's what you need to do. There will be only three repos needed:
1) Fedora
2) ATrpms
3) Freshrpms (only for mjpegtools)
12/17/2008 NOTE on my strikethrough above
It was brought to my attention that RPM Fusion is the new repository of the repositories for Fedora (a note about Fedora and ATrpms). As I experimented more with my Fedora 9 build, I found an issue with Cinelerra hanging that I will describe in a later post. I fixed the problem by removing the ATrpms dependencies and adding RPMFusion as the only additional Fedora repository.
To reiterate, going forward, I am only using RPM Fusion in addition to Fedora's own repo.
The text below has been updated to reflect this new reality.
end NOTE
There will be only two repos needed:
1) Fedora
2) RPM Fusion
Here are the steps
1) install base Fedora 9 by selecting Office/Productivity and Development tools
2) The set of Cinelerra dependencies will come mainly from the RPM Fusion repository, so add the Fusion repo from here:
http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration
3) In addition to the Fedora repo, you'll now have RPMFusion added as a repository. Use the following script to install core programs for the Cinelerra build. Don't forget to chmod a+x your script!
yum install gsm-devel \
libvorbis* \
libogg* \
libtool* \
libtheora* \
libpng* \
libjpeg* \
libtiff* \
esound* \
audiofile* \
libraw1394* \
libavc1394* \
freetype* \
fontconfig* \
nasm \
e2fsprogs* \
OpenEXR* \
fftw \
fftw-devel \
libsndfile* \
libiec61883* \
libdv* \
libquicktime \
ffmpeg \
xvidcore* \
lame \
lame-devel \
a52* \
faad2* \
x264* \
mjpegtools \
faac*
4) As the Cinelerra CVS source code is no longer available via subversion, install git:
yum install git
Here's a good intro to git
Another good git reference
http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~blynn/gitmagic/ch02.html
Here are a couple useful git commands:
To find an earlier version of source code:
git whatchanged --since="20 weeks ago"
To checkout an earlier version of source code:
git checkout [revision number]
example:
git checkout d91e062cadb8a5a7b8c35e9092234948d6918767
5) Grab the Cinelerra CVS source:
git clone git://git.cinelerra.org/j6t/cinelerra.git cinelerra_source
6) Run autogen.sh
[mule@ogre cinelerra_source]# ./autogen.sh
User defined paths to the preferred autoconf and automake versions.
Read the script if you would like to modify them.
AUTOMAKE=automake
ACLOCAL=aclocal
AUTOCONF=autoconf
AUTOHEADER=autoheader
..
7) Run configure
[mule@ogre cinelerra_source]# ./configure
checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
..
8) Hopefully, configure ran properly and shows that you have all the prerequisites for a build from source:
Summary of mandatory components:
libogg found
libvorbis found
libvorbisenc found
libvorbisfile found
libtheora found
OpenEXR found
libdv found
libpng found
libjpeg libraries found
libjpeg headers found
libtiff libraries found
libtiff headers found
FreeType 2 found
libx264 libraries found
libx264 headers found
libuuid libraries found
libuuid headers found
mjpegtools found
libfftw3 libraries found
libfftw3 headers found
liba52 libraries found
liba52 headers found
libmp3lame libraries found
libmp3lame headers found
libsndfile libraries found
libsndfile headers found
libfaac libraries found
libfaac headers found
libfaad libraries found
libfaad headers found
Summary of optional components:
ESD subsystem found
ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) is enabled
ALSA subsystem found
ALSA is enabled
libraw1394 found
libiec61883 found
libavc1394 libraries found
libavc1394 headers found
librom1394 libraries found
librom1394 headers found
Firewire is enabled
OpenGL 2.0 libraries found
Hardware acceleration using OpenGL 2.0 is enabled
Now type
make
to start compilation.
9) Run "make"
10) Hopefully, there were no errors on make, so run "make install"
11) As the topper, don't forget to install some media players and extra encoding tools!:
yum install avidemux mencoder mplayer transcode audacious vnc
Good luck!
The Mule
Update 2008/11/23
I verified that importing live HDV video from my cam via test-mpeg2 still works. This is done with the following command:
test-mpeg2 -r [node] [file]
end update
Update 2009/02/15
Since writing this article, I've had very strange crashes and hangs from Cinelerra on Fedora 9. So I've moved on to using Fedora 10 x86-64. The general steps listed below to install Cinelerra still apply, but here's a post that summarizes the steps on how to build Cinelerra from source on Fedora 10, x86-64
*** end update ***
Advice on the Use of Repositories
As a general note, use as few repositories as possible for the various Cinelerra dependencies. Mixing many repos will result in a compile that doesn't work or worse, poor performance or odd behavior in Cinelerra resulting from slightly incompatible libraries. I've lived both and the latter is far worse because you'll spend hours or days pulling your hair out when, in the end, you've got some natty problem that only occurs between this library or that library. Ugh! I get the shivers just thinking about it!
Building Cinelerra from Source?
If you're using Cinelerra on Fedora 9 and want to build Cinelerra from source, here's what you need to do. There will be only three repos needed:
1) Fedora
2) ATrpms
3) Freshrpms (only for mjpegtools)
12/17/2008 NOTE on my strikethrough above
It was brought to my attention that RPM Fusion is the new repository of the repositories for Fedora (a note about Fedora and ATrpms). As I experimented more with my Fedora 9 build, I found an issue with Cinelerra hanging that I will describe in a later post. I fixed the problem by removing the ATrpms dependencies and adding RPMFusion as the only additional Fedora repository.
To reiterate, going forward, I am only using RPM Fusion in addition to Fedora's own repo.
The text below has been updated to reflect this new reality.
end NOTE
There will be only two repos needed:
1) Fedora
2) RPM Fusion
Here are the steps
1) install base Fedora 9 by selecting Office/Productivity and Development tools
2) The set of Cinelerra dependencies will come mainly from the RPM Fusion repository, so add the Fusion repo from here:
http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration
3) In addition to the Fedora repo, you'll now have RPMFusion added as a repository. Use the following script to install core programs for the Cinelerra build. Don't forget to chmod a+x your script!
yum install gsm-devel \
libvorbis* \
libogg* \
libtool* \
libtheora* \
libpng* \
libjpeg* \
libtiff* \
esound* \
audiofile* \
libraw1394* \
libavc1394* \
freetype* \
fontconfig* \
nasm \
e2fsprogs* \
OpenEXR* \
fftw \
fftw-devel \
libsndfile* \
libiec61883* \
libdv* \
libquicktime \
ffmpeg \
xvidcore* \
lame \
lame-devel \
a52* \
faad2* \
x264* \
mjpegtools \
faac*
4) As the Cinelerra CVS source code is no longer available via subversion, install git:
yum install git
Here's a good intro to git
Another good git reference
http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~blynn/gitmagic/ch02.html
Here are a couple useful git commands:
To find an earlier version of source code:
git whatchanged --since="20 weeks ago"
To checkout an earlier version of source code:
git checkout [revision number]
example:
git checkout d91e062cadb8a5a7b8c35e9092234948d6918767
5) Grab the Cinelerra CVS source:
git clone git://git.cinelerra.org/j6t/cinelerra.git cinelerra_source
6) Run autogen.sh
[mule@ogre cinelerra_source]# ./autogen.sh
User defined paths to the preferred autoconf and automake versions.
Read the script if you would like to modify them.
AUTOMAKE=automake
ACLOCAL=aclocal
AUTOCONF=autoconf
AUTOHEADER=autoheader
..
7) Run configure
[mule@ogre cinelerra_source]# ./configure
checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
..
8) Hopefully, configure ran properly and shows that you have all the prerequisites for a build from source:
Summary of mandatory components:
libogg found
libvorbis found
libvorbisenc found
libvorbisfile found
libtheora found
OpenEXR found
libdv found
libpng found
libjpeg libraries found
libjpeg headers found
libtiff libraries found
libtiff headers found
FreeType 2 found
libx264 libraries found
libx264 headers found
libuuid libraries found
libuuid headers found
mjpegtools found
libfftw3 libraries found
libfftw3 headers found
liba52 libraries found
liba52 headers found
libmp3lame libraries found
libmp3lame headers found
libsndfile libraries found
libsndfile headers found
libfaac libraries found
libfaac headers found
libfaad libraries found
libfaad headers found
Summary of optional components:
ESD subsystem found
ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) is enabled
ALSA subsystem found
ALSA is enabled
libraw1394 found
libiec61883 found
libavc1394 libraries found
libavc1394 headers found
librom1394 libraries found
librom1394 headers found
Firewire is enabled
OpenGL 2.0 libraries found
Hardware acceleration using OpenGL 2.0 is enabled
Now type
make
to start compilation.
9) Run "make"
10) Hopefully, there were no errors on make, so run "make install"
11) As the topper, don't forget to install some media players and extra encoding tools!:
yum install avidemux mencoder mplayer transcode audacious vnc
Good luck!
The Mule
Update 2008/11/23
I verified that importing live HDV video from my cam via test-mpeg2 still works. This is done with the following command:
test-mpeg2 -r [node] [file]
end update
Sunday, November 16, 2008
playing Tokyo Reality in 1080p
The guys at Akihabara News got their hands on a Canon EOS 5D Mark II and produced some beautiful (though shakey) video while running and gunning around Tokyo:
The video is on Vimeo, but the guys kindly also made the 1080p source available here. I downloaded the gigantic 1.8GB Torrent from here. That is 1.8GB for six minutes and ten seconds of video. Wow!
Linux Playback
I wanted to see which media players could handle such a large file. Here were my results on my Fedora 7 x86-64 system:
- dual quad core, 1.6Ghz
- 2GB
- NVidia 8800GT dual head system with twin Dell FP1905 monitors
mplayer played the file cleanly if the application window was stretched to a max of about 1400 pixels wide. Any wider, and mplayer would stutter.
xine couldn't play the file as it seems I do not have the correct codec installed. I got the dreaded "file uses an unsupported codec" error:
ffplay played it with slight audio stutters and the following error:
[mpeg4aac @ 0x3947e23ca0]faac: frame decoding failed: Gain control not yet implemented
I will have to investigate this.
Update 2008/11/23
Reviewing Google for this error, most of the suggestions for fixing the problem state that you should have the latest version of faad2/faac. According to the developer at www.audiocoding.com, I do:
faac x86_64 1.26-3.fc9 installed 182 k
faac-devel x86_64 1.26-3.fc9 installed 49 k
faad2 x86_64 1:2.6.1-10.fc9 installed 344 k
faad2-devel x86_64 1:2.6.1-10.fc9 installed 414 k
So, I'm at a loss why these messages are occurring.
end update
I converted Tokyo Reality using mjpeg as the video compression method:
ffmpeg -i Tokyo-Reality-h264-1080p.mp4 -b 3000k -vcodec mjpeg -ab 256k -ar 44100 -acodec mpeg4aac -coder 1 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -me hex -subq 5 -me_range 16 -g 250 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 tokyo.mp4
On my Dell SC1430, 1.6Ghz with eight cores, the conversion took about the same time as the file was long, about 6 minutes, 10 seconds. The size of the original was 1.8GB; the size of the conversion was 1.6GB. Not much difference there.
Update 2008/11/22
I compared the output of the original to the output of the MJPEG conversion. On the left of the below screengrab is the original from Akihabara. On the right is my conversion. You'll notice that the converted image on the right is slightly more saturated than the one on the left. I'll have to play with the conversion parameters to get the colors a little more like the original.
end update
When I replayed this video, within about four minutes, I exhausted 2GB of RAM and 4GB of swap. Holy crap! The normal Cinelerra editing functions (cutting/pasting) did not exacerbate this memory issue. Only the replay function seemed to suck up all my memory:
The replay was a little choppy at the beginning, but ran at 30fps. However, as RAM filled up, playback performance dropped to 12fps, as RAM was exhausted and swap was being utilized. Once swap was exhausted, the entire box locked up! Scary!!
Update 2008/11/17
I had been planning on upgrading my system to Fedora 9 and the above memory leak was enough for me to say "fuck it" and just do the upgrade. Upgrades are increasingly complex as I've added four RAID drives to my setup. Well, just when you think it is going to be a nightmare, along comes Fedora and actually made the process pretty seemless. Within two hours, I had Fedora 9 installed, all my Cinelerra source dependencies installed, Cinelerra compiled and up and running. Of course, this is from a guy who has been doing this for how many years now? But still..two hours..I hardly believe it myself.
The icing on the cake is that my memory leak is no longer present! The below chart show CPU utilization and memory while the video plays:
So far, the system is much more responsive than the old Fedora 7, 64-bit. I guess I had some old/outdated/corrupted libraries in there. Now playback of Tokyo Reality in Cinelerra is more consistent, albeit at a slower 19fps.
end update
MacBook Pro Playback
I next copied the file to my 2GB, dual core Intel 2.2Ghz MacBook Pro 17". I attached my 42inch display to the second head on the MacBook's video card. The file played in QuickTime. It played without errors when I manually enlarged the Quicktime window to fill the screen; however, QuickTime stuttered when the video was maximized to Full Screen using the 42" monitor as the output display.
Finally, I tried to play the file on my MediaGate to absolutely no avail.
So, it looks like the only reliable players are mplayer on Fedora 7 and QuickTime on my MacBook Pro.
I think I need to upgrade my Fedora 7 system to a newer OS. Hopefully, a more recent OS and supporting encoders/decoders will do a better job of playing these large files back.
The Mule
The video is on Vimeo, but the guys kindly also made the 1080p source available here. I downloaded the gigantic 1.8GB Torrent from here. That is 1.8GB for six minutes and ten seconds of video. Wow!
Linux Playback
I wanted to see which media players could handle such a large file. Here were my results on my Fedora 7 x86-64 system:
- dual quad core, 1.6Ghz
- 2GB
- NVidia 8800GT dual head system with twin Dell FP1905 monitors
mplayer played the file cleanly if the application window was stretched to a max of about 1400 pixels wide. Any wider, and mplayer would stutter.
xine couldn't play the file as it seems I do not have the correct codec installed. I got the dreaded "file uses an unsupported codec" error:
ffplay played it with slight audio stutters and the following error:
[mpeg4aac @ 0x3947e23ca0]faac: frame decoding failed: Gain control not yet implemented
I will have to investigate this.
Update 2008/11/23
Reviewing Google for this error, most of the suggestions for fixing the problem state that you should have the latest version of faad2/faac. According to the developer at www.audiocoding.com, I do:
faac x86_64 1.26-3.fc9 installed 182 k
faac-devel x86_64 1.26-3.fc9 installed 49 k
faad2 x86_64 1:2.6.1-10.fc9 installed 344 k
faad2-devel x86_64 1:2.6.1-10.fc9 installed 414 k
So, I'm at a loss why these messages are occurring.
end update
I converted Tokyo Reality using mjpeg as the video compression method:
ffmpeg -i Tokyo-Reality-h264-1080p.mp4 -b 3000k -vcodec mjpeg -ab 256k -ar 44100 -acodec mpeg4aac -coder 1 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -me hex -subq 5 -me_range 16 -g 250 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 tokyo.mp4
On my Dell SC1430, 1.6Ghz with eight cores, the conversion took about the same time as the file was long, about 6 minutes, 10 seconds. The size of the original was 1.8GB; the size of the conversion was 1.6GB. Not much difference there.
Update 2008/11/22
I compared the output of the original to the output of the MJPEG conversion. On the left of the below screengrab is the original from Akihabara. On the right is my conversion. You'll notice that the converted image on the right is slightly more saturated than the one on the left. I'll have to play with the conversion parameters to get the colors a little more like the original.
end update
When I replayed this video, within about four minutes, I exhausted 2GB of RAM and 4GB of swap. Holy crap! The normal Cinelerra editing functions (cutting/pasting) did not exacerbate this memory issue. Only the replay function seemed to suck up all my memory:
The replay was a little choppy at the beginning, but ran at 30fps. However, as RAM filled up, playback performance dropped to 12fps, as RAM was exhausted and swap was being utilized. Once swap was exhausted, the entire box locked up! Scary!!
Update 2008/11/17
I had been planning on upgrading my system to Fedora 9 and the above memory leak was enough for me to say "fuck it" and just do the upgrade. Upgrades are increasingly complex as I've added four RAID drives to my setup. Well, just when you think it is going to be a nightmare, along comes Fedora and actually made the process pretty seemless. Within two hours, I had Fedora 9 installed, all my Cinelerra source dependencies installed, Cinelerra compiled and up and running. Of course, this is from a guy who has been doing this for how many years now? But still..two hours..I hardly believe it myself.
The icing on the cake is that my memory leak is no longer present! The below chart show CPU utilization and memory while the video plays:
So far, the system is much more responsive than the old Fedora 7, 64-bit. I guess I had some old/outdated/corrupted libraries in there. Now playback of Tokyo Reality in Cinelerra is more consistent, albeit at a slower 19fps.
end update
MacBook Pro Playback
I next copied the file to my 2GB, dual core Intel 2.2Ghz MacBook Pro 17". I attached my 42inch display to the second head on the MacBook's video card. The file played in QuickTime. It played without errors when I manually enlarged the Quicktime window to fill the screen; however, QuickTime stuttered when the video was maximized to Full Screen using the 42" monitor as the output display.
Finally, I tried to play the file on my MediaGate to absolutely no avail.
So, it looks like the only reliable players are mplayer on Fedora 7 and QuickTime on my MacBook Pro.
I think I need to upgrade my Fedora 7 system to a newer OS. Hopefully, a more recent OS and supporting encoders/decoders will do a better job of playing these large files back.
The Mule
using partimage with RAID
Background
As I am planning on a purchase of a 1080p cam, I will need my system to be up on the latest and greatest kernal and software to get the highest performance from Cinelerra. In that light, I'd like to backup my current Fedora 7 boot and root filesystems, just in case something goes wrong with the Fedora 9 install.
Partimage and My System
I will use partimage to backup these filesystems. Partimage will need to see source and destination filesystems. My first task is to figure out what I have. I built this system over a year ago and don't remember all the specifics of which physical drive has x or y filesystems. I could go back into my notes to find out how I partitioned my system, but that would be cheating. So let's see what the filesystem tells me.
The first thing I do is look at the output of df:
[mule@ogre ~]# df -m
Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md0 457295 6720 426972 2% /
/dev/md2 469453 417004 28602 94% /mnt/videos
/dev/sda1 99 19 76 20% /boot
tmpfs 1007 0 1007 0% /dev/shm
I have two RAID devices, one mounted as my root partition (/dev/md0) and one mounted as my video storage (/dev/md2). Next, I see that /dev/sda1 is my boot partition. Finally, there is a filesystem defined for shared memory, though I am not concerned about saving the contents of that as it is RAM.
How It Works
Partimage backs up filesystems that are not mounted. But partimage is started from a bootable rescue disk, like Knoppix or SysRescCd. The twist here is that I am using RAID partitions. Thus, when I boot with one of these CDs, I will need to assemble my RAID drives in order to have a source to backup (my root filesystem) and a destination to write to (my /mnt/videos filesystem). Partimage will not use a mounted filesystem as a source, but I will need to mount the destination.
Assembling My RAID Drives
I have forgotten the configuration of my RAID drives, so I look at /etc/mdadm.conf to figure out what partitions and UUIDs make up my two RAID sets:
[mule@ogre ~]# cat /etc/mdadm.conf
# mdadm.conf written out by anaconda
DEVICE partitions
MAILADDR root
ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid0 num-devices=2 uuid=c0d4b597:c33b3014:ab694cee:76920165
ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=1705b387:1c71d83e:364b60b4:fb0cc192
This tells me that my root partition (/dev/md0) is a stripe set (RAID0) and that the storage for my important stuff, all my videos in /mnt/video is mirrored (RAID1) in case of a failure. I'm glad I built the system this way, as I like the performance benefits of a stripe set for my root partition, but I would consider it tragic if I lost all my work. Therefore, I've mirrored the video drive on two drives in case of a failure.
Video Display Problem with Linux and NVidia Card
For some reason I have not figured out, I cannot see virtual consoles once I exit Gnome. This is due to some incompatibility between the NVidia 8800GT card and my Dell SC1430. This also effects the display when I boot with either Knoppix or SysRescCD. Using these tools, the screen goes black and I can't see any terminal sessions or virtual consoles. Therefore, in order to use the boot cd, I removed the NVidia card and booted using Dell's ATI ES1000 onboard video.
Booting with Knoppix
Once Knoppix is fully booted, I need to assemble my two RAID partitions. You can use either use the UUID or the super-minor number of each RAID set to do this. I chose the super-minor, as it was simpler.
Assemble the Source RAID set
Here I am assembling the source drive, my root filesystem:
root@Knoppix:/ramdisk/home/knoppix# modprobe md
root@Knoppix:/ramdisk/home/knoppix# mdadm --assemble -m 0 /dev/md0
Mount the Destination Partition
Since I want to store the backup image on the same mirrored drive set that holds my videos, I'll mount that partition as the destination for the partimage. Of course, I first have to create the mount point:
mkdir /mnt/videos
mount -t ext3 /dev/md2 /mnt/videos
Run Partimage to Backup Root Partition
I'll need three things to run partimage:
-an assembled RAID set of the source, my root/boot partitions, unmounted
-an assembled RAID set of the destination, mounted
-a compression method
Here's the partimage process:
1) Select the partition to save and give the backup a destination and name. Note that the "Save partition into an image file" is selected as the default behavior:
2) Select a compression method:
3) Give the backup image a description (optional):
4) Partimage takes a few minutes to gather information about large (500GB+ drives), but then displays basic information about the partition to be backed up:
5) Partimage starts the imaging process. I had about 6GB to backup:
6) Partimage took about 20 minutes to create the backup image:
Backup complete. The restore process is similar, but instead of backing up an image file as in Step 1 above, you'll choose the "Restore Partition from an image file" option.
Run Partimage for Boot Partition
Since my boot partition is small 128MB, creating a backup image shouldn't take very long. My boot partition is /dev/sda1
Now I should be ready to an upgrade to Fedora 9. One hurdle I already see: the Fedora 9 installation doesn't recognize pre-existing RAID sets. Yarg. Looks like I might have to blow away the existing stripe set that is home to my root partition. Let you know how that goes.
Update 11/17/2008
The Fedora 9 x86-64 install went well. Here are some of the natty details:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2008/11/fedora-9-x86-64-install.html
end update
Good day,
The Mule
References
mdadm man page
As I am planning on a purchase of a 1080p cam, I will need my system to be up on the latest and greatest kernal and software to get the highest performance from Cinelerra. In that light, I'd like to backup my current Fedora 7 boot and root filesystems, just in case something goes wrong with the Fedora 9 install.
Partimage and My System
I will use partimage to backup these filesystems. Partimage will need to see source and destination filesystems. My first task is to figure out what I have. I built this system over a year ago and don't remember all the specifics of which physical drive has x or y filesystems. I could go back into my notes to find out how I partitioned my system, but that would be cheating. So let's see what the filesystem tells me.
The first thing I do is look at the output of df:
[mule@ogre ~]# df -m
Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md0 457295 6720 426972 2% /
/dev/md2 469453 417004 28602 94% /mnt/videos
/dev/sda1 99 19 76 20% /boot
tmpfs 1007 0 1007 0% /dev/shm
I have two RAID devices, one mounted as my root partition (/dev/md0) and one mounted as my video storage (/dev/md2). Next, I see that /dev/sda1 is my boot partition. Finally, there is a filesystem defined for shared memory, though I am not concerned about saving the contents of that as it is RAM.
How It Works
Partimage backs up filesystems that are not mounted. But partimage is started from a bootable rescue disk, like Knoppix or SysRescCd. The twist here is that I am using RAID partitions. Thus, when I boot with one of these CDs, I will need to assemble my RAID drives in order to have a source to backup (my root filesystem) and a destination to write to (my /mnt/videos filesystem). Partimage will not use a mounted filesystem as a source, but I will need to mount the destination.
Assembling My RAID Drives
I have forgotten the configuration of my RAID drives, so I look at /etc/mdadm.conf to figure out what partitions and UUIDs make up my two RAID sets:
[mule@ogre ~]# cat /etc/mdadm.conf
# mdadm.conf written out by anaconda
DEVICE partitions
MAILADDR root
ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid0 num-devices=2 uuid=c0d4b597:c33b3014:ab694cee:76920165
ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=1705b387:1c71d83e:364b60b4:fb0cc192
This tells me that my root partition (/dev/md0) is a stripe set (RAID0) and that the storage for my important stuff, all my videos in /mnt/video is mirrored (RAID1) in case of a failure. I'm glad I built the system this way, as I like the performance benefits of a stripe set for my root partition, but I would consider it tragic if I lost all my work. Therefore, I've mirrored the video drive on two drives in case of a failure.
Video Display Problem with Linux and NVidia Card
For some reason I have not figured out, I cannot see virtual consoles once I exit Gnome. This is due to some incompatibility between the NVidia 8800GT card and my Dell SC1430. This also effects the display when I boot with either Knoppix or SysRescCD. Using these tools, the screen goes black and I can't see any terminal sessions or virtual consoles. Therefore, in order to use the boot cd, I removed the NVidia card and booted using Dell's ATI ES1000 onboard video.
Booting with Knoppix
Once Knoppix is fully booted, I need to assemble my two RAID partitions. You can use either use the UUID or the super-minor number of each RAID set to do this. I chose the super-minor, as it was simpler.
Assemble the Source RAID set
Here I am assembling the source drive, my root filesystem:
root@Knoppix:/ramdisk/home/knoppix# modprobe md
root@Knoppix:/ramdisk/home/knoppix# mdadm --assemble -m 0 /dev/md0
Mount the Destination Partition
Since I want to store the backup image on the same mirrored drive set that holds my videos, I'll mount that partition as the destination for the partimage. Of course, I first have to create the mount point:
mkdir /mnt/videos
mount -t ext3 /dev/md2 /mnt/videos
Run Partimage to Backup Root Partition
I'll need three things to run partimage:
-an assembled RAID set of the source, my root/boot partitions, unmounted
-an assembled RAID set of the destination, mounted
-a compression method
Here's the partimage process:
1) Select the partition to save and give the backup a destination and name. Note that the "Save partition into an image file" is selected as the default behavior:
2) Select a compression method:
3) Give the backup image a description (optional):
4) Partimage takes a few minutes to gather information about large (500GB+ drives), but then displays basic information about the partition to be backed up:
5) Partimage starts the imaging process. I had about 6GB to backup:
6) Partimage took about 20 minutes to create the backup image:
Backup complete. The restore process is similar, but instead of backing up an image file as in Step 1 above, you'll choose the "Restore Partition from an image file" option.
Run Partimage for Boot Partition
Since my boot partition is small 128MB, creating a backup image shouldn't take very long. My boot partition is /dev/sda1
Now I should be ready to an upgrade to Fedora 9. One hurdle I already see: the Fedora 9 installation doesn't recognize pre-existing RAID sets. Yarg. Looks like I might have to blow away the existing stripe set that is home to my root partition. Let you know how that goes.
Update 11/17/2008
The Fedora 9 x86-64 install went well. Here are some of the natty details:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2008/11/fedora-9-x86-64-install.html
end update
Good day,
The Mule
References
mdadm man page
Thursday, November 06, 2008
converting 1080p video, part III
Here is another experiment in order to justify my planned expenditure of $4000 on the Canon EOS 5D Mark II. Down the road of doom I plod, unabated in my quest.
If I am to get the new Canon, I will be integrating some of its video along with video from my current 720p cam, the JVC HD10U. Therefore as a test, I threw some test 1080p video from the Canon and output from my JVC together on the timeline in Cinelerra.
Upconvert 720p or Downconvert 1080p?
For the time being, I don't want to upconvert the 720p video. Instead, I reduced the 1080p's resolution (downrezzed) in Cinelerra. This makes more sense from a practical point of view, as rendering 1080p video in its pure, unadulterated state will surely:
1) increase my storage needs
2) increase the time to render final output
In the future, after I have a few bucks lying around to spend on a next generation dual, quad core with terabytes of disk and a bluray writer, I will then start rendering final videos to 1080p format.
Integrating the two videos
Back to the task at hand, I put the mjpeg conversion of the 1080p video from my last 1080p blog entry on the timeline, along with another video I recently finished:
I set my project format to 720P:
This reduced the size of the 1080P track in the Compositor:
I could see that I only had part of the 1080p video displayed, I used a calculator to find the ratio between 1280 and 1920 pixels:
1280/1920 = .6667
In the Compositor window, I entered this percentage into the Z-Axis of the Projector's "Show Tool Info" screen:
This effectively "zoomed out" on the 1080p video track so that the entire frame is now shown:
Now, both tracks of the video are for all intents and purposes, 720P. If interested, I've put the downrezzed video (3.2MB) here for you to check out.
Please forgive the lousy quality of the 720p track, but the JVC is really horrible in low light..another reason why I want to get the Canon.
Update 11/9/2008
One thing I neglected to mention is that the frame rate of the 1080p track from the Canon is 30fps, whereas the 720p video track from my JVC is 29.97. In order to accurately merge these two tracks into my 720p project, I will need to apply the Decimate video effect in Cinelerra. Decimate drops frames from a video track. It takes an input frame rate of a higher fps and uses the project's lower frame rate as output. In this case, I want to lower the frame rate of the Canon's track from 30 down to 29.97fps. So the input rate would be 30fps and the output is the frame rate of the project, 29.97 fps.
As noted in the Cinelerra documentation, always place computationally intensive effects AFTER the Decimate effect, as those effects will be rendered at the lower frame rate, thus using less CPU cycles.
Using Decimate, I can now be assured that I will have no synchronization problems when merging 1080p and 720p video.
end update
Tally ho!
the mule
If I am to get the new Canon, I will be integrating some of its video along with video from my current 720p cam, the JVC HD10U. Therefore as a test, I threw some test 1080p video from the Canon and output from my JVC together on the timeline in Cinelerra.
Upconvert 720p or Downconvert 1080p?
For the time being, I don't want to upconvert the 720p video. Instead, I reduced the 1080p's resolution (downrezzed) in Cinelerra. This makes more sense from a practical point of view, as rendering 1080p video in its pure, unadulterated state will surely:
1) increase my storage needs
2) increase the time to render final output
In the future, after I have a few bucks lying around to spend on a next generation dual, quad core with terabytes of disk and a bluray writer, I will then start rendering final videos to 1080p format.
Integrating the two videos
Back to the task at hand, I put the mjpeg conversion of the 1080p video from my last 1080p blog entry on the timeline, along with another video I recently finished:
I set my project format to 720P:
This reduced the size of the 1080P track in the Compositor:
I could see that I only had part of the 1080p video displayed, I used a calculator to find the ratio between 1280 and 1920 pixels:
1280/1920 = .6667
In the Compositor window, I entered this percentage into the Z-Axis of the Projector's "Show Tool Info" screen:
This effectively "zoomed out" on the 1080p video track so that the entire frame is now shown:
Now, both tracks of the video are for all intents and purposes, 720P. If interested, I've put the downrezzed video (3.2MB) here for you to check out.
Please forgive the lousy quality of the 720p track, but the JVC is really horrible in low light..another reason why I want to get the Canon.
Update 11/9/2008
One thing I neglected to mention is that the frame rate of the 1080p track from the Canon is 30fps, whereas the 720p video track from my JVC is 29.97. In order to accurately merge these two tracks into my 720p project, I will need to apply the Decimate video effect in Cinelerra. Decimate drops frames from a video track. It takes an input frame rate of a higher fps and uses the project's lower frame rate as output. In this case, I want to lower the frame rate of the Canon's track from 30 down to 29.97fps. So the input rate would be 30fps and the output is the frame rate of the project, 29.97 fps.
As noted in the Cinelerra documentation, always place computationally intensive effects AFTER the Decimate effect, as those effects will be rendered at the lower frame rate, thus using less CPU cycles.
Using Decimate, I can now be assured that I will have no synchronization problems when merging 1080p and 720p video.
end update
Tally ho!
the mule
Sunday, November 02, 2008
flash player 9 install in Fedora 7/9/10 64-bit
I inadvertantly removed the flash-plugin from my 64-bit system and figuring out how to reinstall the thing took about two hours, so I thought I'd write the steps down:
Update 2009/02/21
Finally, Adobe has released a 64-bit Flash plugin:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
And, shocker of shockers, it actually works!
To Install Flash Plugin on x86-64
You'll download the tarball from here:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
The only thing in the tarball is libflashplayer.so. To install the 64-bit Flash plugin, simply move libflashplayer.so into your user's .mozilla/plugins directory and restart Firefox.
Even more amazing, the bloody thing works on my Fedora 10, x86-64 virtual machine running in VMware Fusion on my MacBook Pro! Yee haw!
Awesome!
end update
Update 2008/12/19
As my recent build of Fedora 9 may have gotten corrupted by bad ATrpms repo files, I upgraded AGAIN, this time to Fedora 10, x86_64. Here are some nice instructions for the Fedora 10 Flash install:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
I learned a new trick in Firefox to check plugins. Type "about:plugins" in the URL bar.
end update
Update 2008/11/18
I just upgraded to Fedora 9, x86_64. Here are some nice instructions for the Fedora 9 Flash install:
http://fedorasolved.org/browser-solutions/flash
http://macromedia.mplug.org/
end update
As Flash 9 was not built for 64-bit systems, I'll need to install nspluginwrapper to get Flash to work on my Fedora 7, 64-bit box.
1) install nspluginwrapper
yum install nspluginwrapper
Installed Packages
Name : nspluginwrapper
Arch : x86_64
Version: 1.0.0
Release: 1
Size : 124 k
Repo : installed
Summary: A compatibility layer for Netscape 4 plugins
Description:
nspluginwrapper makes it possible to use Netscape 4 compatible plugins
compiled for i386 into Mozilla for another architecture, e.g. x86_64.
This package consists in:
* npviewer: the plugin viewer
* npwrapper.so: the browser-side plugin
* nspluginwrapper: a tool to manage plugins installation and update
2) Download the flash 9 install
wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
3) Unpack the tarball
gunzip install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
tar xvf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar
4) From the install directory created from the extract, copy libflashplayer.so to Mozilla's plugin directory:
cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
5) Use nspluginwrapper to enable the 32-bit flash to work in 64-bit Firefox
nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
6) Restart Firefox.
Lovely, now YouTube works again.
that's all folks!
mule
Update 2009/02/21
Finally, Adobe has released a 64-bit Flash plugin:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
And, shocker of shockers, it actually works!
To Install Flash Plugin on x86-64
You'll download the tarball from here:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
The only thing in the tarball is libflashplayer.so. To install the 64-bit Flash plugin, simply move libflashplayer.so into your user's .mozilla/plugins directory and restart Firefox.
Even more amazing, the bloody thing works on my Fedora 10, x86-64 virtual machine running in VMware Fusion on my MacBook Pro! Yee haw!
Awesome!
end update
Update 2008/12/19
As my recent build of Fedora 9 may have gotten corrupted by bad ATrpms repo files, I upgraded AGAIN, this time to Fedora 10, x86_64. Here are some nice instructions for the Fedora 10 Flash install:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash
I learned a new trick in Firefox to check plugins. Type "about:plugins" in the URL bar.
end update
Update 2008/11/18
I just upgraded to Fedora 9, x86_64. Here are some nice instructions for the Fedora 9 Flash install:
http://fedorasolved.org/browser-solutions/flash
http://macromedia.mplug.org/
end update
As Flash 9 was not built for 64-bit systems, I'll need to install nspluginwrapper to get Flash to work on my Fedora 7, 64-bit box.
1) install nspluginwrapper
yum install nspluginwrapper
Installed Packages
Name : nspluginwrapper
Arch : x86_64
Version: 1.0.0
Release: 1
Size : 124 k
Repo : installed
Summary: A compatibility layer for Netscape 4 plugins
Description:
nspluginwrapper makes it possible to use Netscape 4 compatible plugins
compiled for i386 into Mozilla for another architecture, e.g. x86_64.
This package consists in:
* npviewer: the plugin viewer
* npwrapper.so: the browser-side plugin
* nspluginwrapper: a tool to manage plugins installation and update
2) Download the flash 9 install
wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
3) Unpack the tarball
gunzip install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
tar xvf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar
4) From the install directory created from the extract, copy libflashplayer.so to Mozilla's plugin directory:
cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
5) Use nspluginwrapper to enable the 32-bit flash to work in 64-bit Firefox
nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
6) Restart Firefox.
Lovely, now YouTube works again.
that's all folks!
mule
Tuesday, October 28, 2008
converting 1080p video, part II
A couple nights back, I spent a few hours finding a usable intermediate format for 1080P video editing. Of course, my goal was to prove that I can still use my preferred NLE Cinelerra in order to edit the gorgeous, high definition output from the Canon EOS 5D Mark II. An alternative way of putting it is that this is my justification for purchasing what will amount to a $4000 camera!
Import: which format works well?
Since Cinelerra is rather picky about the types of video it accepts (see my original Quicktime compatability document), it was a challenge to find a Cinelerra-editable intermediate format for that test 1080p video I told you about in the first part of this two-part blog entry. The video is a five-second city scene of a bicycler launching from a stop. That video is 23MB.
Keep in mind that various versions of media encoders (like ffmpeg and mplayer) do not always implement codecs and container formats consistently. Also, program dependencies for the encoders across different Linux distros complicate matters. So what I state as working below may not work for you. (Your mileage may vary). Note that I am currently using Fedora 7, 64-bit.
Caveats aside, transcoding the biker video to the following formats did NOT work:
- I420 from ffmpeg
- rawvideo (RAW YV12) from ffmpeg
Here are a couple formats that did work:
1) MJPEG output from ffmpeg
2) RAW YV12 output from mplayer
MJPEG from FFmpeg
Playback Performance
This format seems to be a likely candidate, as I got about 15fps on my dual, quad core Dell SC1430 in Cinelerra.
File Size
The resulting file size is small..about 35MB for five seconds of 1080P.
Image Quality Compared to Original
The image quality is very good. However, the colors seem bit oversaturated and dark in contrast to the original. With a bit of tweaking to the conversion command, I might be able to get more realistic colors out of the conversion. Here's a comparison shot:
Editing Notes
No problems surfaced with a couple initial edits and renderings. As this is a compressed format, there will be some loss of quality over successive encodings.
Here is the command I used to convert the video:
ffmpeg -i Video1.MOV -b 3000k -vcodec mjpeg -ab 256k -ar 44100 -acodec mpeg4aac -coder 1 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -me hex -subq 5 -me_range 16 -g 250 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 testmjpeg.mov
This is the same conversion command that I ran in part I of this blog entry.
Information about the file looks like this in mplayer:
Playing testmjpeg.mov. ISO: File Type Major Brand: Original QuickTime Quicktime/MOV file format detected. [mov] Video stream found, -vid 0 VIDEO: [jpeg] 1920x1080 24bpp 30.000 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s) ========================================================================== Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family Selected video codec: [ffmjpeg] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MJPEG decoder) ==========================================================================
RAWYV12 from mplayer
Playback Performance
Playback is slow, 7fps, roughly 1/2 the speed of MJPEG. Not a show stopper.
File Size
Huge. About 450MB for about five seconds of video. Woah!
Image Quality Compared to Original
Image quality is very good as well. Less saturated then the mjpeg version. That's what almost 100MB/sec pays for.
Editing Notes
This is an uncompressed format, corresponding to the YUV 4:2:0 spec:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YUV#Y.27UV420p_.28and_Y.27V12.29
Also, here is an excellent article on understanding color sampling:
http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/colorspace/
Cinelerra loads the raw YV12 file, but the timeline does not show thumbnails. Not a show stopper, but a bit of a bummer. The one benefit of yuv4mpeg stream from mplayer is that you can feed that stream directly into mjpegtools for further processing.
Update 2008/11/22
It seems that 1080p in raw yuv format is actually unusable in my Fedora 9 Cinelerra install. When I load a project with a large raw yuv file, Cinelerra hangs for ten minutes as it loads the file. Once loaded, the GUI tends to freeze for another ten minutes. Thus, it seems that MJPEG may be my only choice for rendering 1080p.
I will continue to experiment.
end update
Here is the command I used to convert the video:
mplayer Video1.MOV -vo yuv4mpeg
I received this message while trying to convert the video
************************************************
**** Your system is too SLOW to play this! ****
************************************************
Possible reasons, problems, workarounds:
- Most common: broken/buggy _audio_ driver
- Try -ao sdl or use the OSS emulation of ALSA.
- Experiment with different values for -autosync, 30 is a good start.
So, I amended my command to add the autosync feature, which gradually adjusts the audio/video synchronization based on audio delay:
mplayer Video1.MOV -autosync 30 -vo yuv4mpeg
That seemed to alleviate the messages. Without redirecting to a specified filename, Mplayer outputs a file called "stream.yuv".
Information about the file looks like this in mplayer:
Playing stream.yuv. YUV4MPEG2 file format detected. YUV4MPEG2 Video stream 0 size: display: 1920x1080, codec: 1920x1080 VIDEO: [YV12] 1920x1080 12bpp 30.000 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s) ========================================================================== Opening video decoder: [raw] RAW Uncompressed Video VDec: vo config request - 1920 x 1080 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12) VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0) Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect. VO: [xv] 1920x1080 => 1920x1080 Planar YV12 [ASPECT] Warning: No suitable new res found! [ASPECT] Warning: No suitable new res found! Selected video codec: [rawyv12] vfm: raw (RAW YV12) ==========================================================================
Quality
There seem to be quite a difference in the colors rendered by each format. The MJPEG-formatted file seems to much closer to the original than the raw YV12.
Applying Effects
For fun, I applied an oil painting effect to this five seconds of video. I then rendered the output to MJPEG format. I was disappointed to find out that five seconds of video with the oil paint effect applied takes a full three minutes and twenty seconds to render at 1080p in my dual, quad core Dell SC1430. Holy cow! I guess I won't be doing Star Wars green screens in 1080p!
In the interest of full disclosure, the oil paint effect is a notorious CPU hog and is not indicative of the type of work the average editor will perform. Another note: while rendering the output, all eight CPUs were maxed out at 95% utilization. Kowabunga!
To give people hope, applying a simple title to the image doesn't do too much damage to load on the CPU. The video with a title rendered to MJPEG format took twenty seconds.
Thoughts
My goal is to get some really fantastic looking video rendered from Cinelerra. In combination with the new Canon and some wise encoding choices, I believe I should be able to do this. This article shows that I'm getting closer, but I'm not there yet. I'm hoping to get closer with another round of experimentation.
One final thing..be ready to spend money on RAM. I noticed my paltry 2GB was immediately sucked up by Cinelerra when I was doing these various test videos. I'm going to get another 4GB and will let you know if that helps.
more to come.
The Mule
Import: which format works well?
Since Cinelerra is rather picky about the types of video it accepts (see my original Quicktime compatability document), it was a challenge to find a Cinelerra-editable intermediate format for that test 1080p video I told you about in the first part of this two-part blog entry. The video is a five-second city scene of a bicycler launching from a stop. That video is 23MB.
Keep in mind that various versions of media encoders (like ffmpeg and mplayer) do not always implement codecs and container formats consistently. Also, program dependencies for the encoders across different Linux distros complicate matters. So what I state as working below may not work for you. (Your mileage may vary). Note that I am currently using Fedora 7, 64-bit.
Caveats aside, transcoding the biker video to the following formats did NOT work:
- I420 from ffmpeg
- rawvideo (RAW YV12) from ffmpeg
Here are a couple formats that did work:
1) MJPEG output from ffmpeg
2) RAW YV12 output from mplayer
MJPEG from FFmpeg
Playback Performance
This format seems to be a likely candidate, as I got about 15fps on my dual, quad core Dell SC1430 in Cinelerra.
File Size
The resulting file size is small..about 35MB for five seconds of 1080P.
Image Quality Compared to Original
The image quality is very good. However, the colors seem bit oversaturated and dark in contrast to the original. With a bit of tweaking to the conversion command, I might be able to get more realistic colors out of the conversion. Here's a comparison shot:
Editing Notes
No problems surfaced with a couple initial edits and renderings. As this is a compressed format, there will be some loss of quality over successive encodings.
Here is the command I used to convert the video:
ffmpeg -i Video1.MOV -b 3000k -vcodec mjpeg -ab 256k -ar 44100 -acodec mpeg4aac -coder 1 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -me hex -subq 5 -me_range 16 -g 250 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 testmjpeg.mov
This is the same conversion command that I ran in part I of this blog entry.
Information about the file looks like this in mplayer:
Playing testmjpeg.mov. ISO: File Type Major Brand: Original QuickTime Quicktime/MOV file format detected. [mov] Video stream found, -vid 0 VIDEO: [jpeg] 1920x1080 24bpp 30.000 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s) ========================================================================== Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family Selected video codec: [ffmjpeg] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MJPEG decoder) ==========================================================================
RAWYV12 from mplayer
Playback Performance
Playback is slow, 7fps, roughly 1/2 the speed of MJPEG. Not a show stopper.
File Size
Huge. About 450MB for about five seconds of video. Woah!
Image Quality Compared to Original
Image quality is very good as well. Less saturated then the mjpeg version. That's what almost 100MB/sec pays for.
Editing Notes
This is an uncompressed format, corresponding to the YUV 4:2:0 spec:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YUV#Y.27UV420p_.28and_Y.27V12.29
Also, here is an excellent article on understanding color sampling:
http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/colorspace/
Cinelerra loads the raw YV12 file, but the timeline does not show thumbnails. Not a show stopper, but a bit of a bummer. The one benefit of yuv4mpeg stream from mplayer is that you can feed that stream directly into mjpegtools for further processing.
Update 2008/11/22
It seems that 1080p in raw yuv format is actually unusable in my Fedora 9 Cinelerra install. When I load a project with a large raw yuv file, Cinelerra hangs for ten minutes as it loads the file. Once loaded, the GUI tends to freeze for another ten minutes. Thus, it seems that MJPEG may be my only choice for rendering 1080p.
I will continue to experiment.
end update
Here is the command I used to convert the video:
mplayer Video1.MOV -vo yuv4mpeg
I received this message while trying to convert the video
************************************************
**** Your system is too SLOW to play this! ****
************************************************
Possible reasons, problems, workarounds:
- Most common: broken/buggy _audio_ driver
- Try -ao sdl or use the OSS emulation of ALSA.
- Experiment with different values for -autosync, 30 is a good start.
So, I amended my command to add the autosync feature, which gradually adjusts the audio/video synchronization based on audio delay:
mplayer Video1.MOV -autosync 30 -vo yuv4mpeg
That seemed to alleviate the messages. Without redirecting to a specified filename, Mplayer outputs a file called "stream.yuv".
Information about the file looks like this in mplayer:
Playing stream.yuv. YUV4MPEG2 file format detected. YUV4MPEG2 Video stream 0 size: display: 1920x1080, codec: 1920x1080 VIDEO: [YV12] 1920x1080 12bpp 30.000 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s) ========================================================================== Opening video decoder: [raw] RAW Uncompressed Video VDec: vo config request - 1920 x 1080 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12) VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0) Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect. VO: [xv] 1920x1080 => 1920x1080 Planar YV12 [ASPECT] Warning: No suitable new res found! [ASPECT] Warning: No suitable new res found! Selected video codec: [rawyv12] vfm: raw (RAW YV12) ==========================================================================
Quality
There seem to be quite a difference in the colors rendered by each format. The MJPEG-formatted file seems to much closer to the original than the raw YV12.
Applying Effects
For fun, I applied an oil painting effect to this five seconds of video. I then rendered the output to MJPEG format. I was disappointed to find out that five seconds of video with the oil paint effect applied takes a full three minutes and twenty seconds to render at 1080p in my dual, quad core Dell SC1430. Holy cow! I guess I won't be doing Star Wars green screens in 1080p!
In the interest of full disclosure, the oil paint effect is a notorious CPU hog and is not indicative of the type of work the average editor will perform. Another note: while rendering the output, all eight CPUs were maxed out at 95% utilization. Kowabunga!
To give people hope, applying a simple title to the image doesn't do too much damage to load on the CPU. The video with a title rendered to MJPEG format took twenty seconds.
Thoughts
My goal is to get some really fantastic looking video rendered from Cinelerra. In combination with the new Canon and some wise encoding choices, I believe I should be able to do this. This article shows that I'm getting closer, but I'm not there yet. I'm hoping to get closer with another round of experimentation.
One final thing..be ready to spend money on RAM. I noticed my paltry 2GB was immediately sucked up by Cinelerra when I was doing these various test videos. I'm going to get another 4GB and will let you know if that helps.
more to come.
The Mule
Thursday, October 23, 2008
converting 1080p video, part I
I was interested in buying the new Canon EOS 5D Mark II, a really sweet bit of kit:
Amazon: Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Canon Product Page
Canon Learning Center
Rob Galbraith Review
Manual
I was excited at the possibility of stellar high quality video at a somewhat reasonable price. See Vincent Laforet's great demo video here:
http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/10/10/without-further-ado-reverie/
So I downloaded test video output from a review of the preproduction cam here:
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos5dmarkII/page15.asp
Disclaimer
DPReview stated that these videos are direct from the cam, though according to Canon, the production model uses MPEG4 video compression. This does not jibe with my results, as I found by reviewing the output of mplayer and Quicktime on my MacBook that these test videos actually use H264 video compression. Strange. Of course, we'll see what the real deal is once the camera is available for purchase. Regardless, my testing procedures below maybe helpful for people using Linux and/or Cinelerra that need to work around similar problems.
Update 10/25/2008
I downloaded a couple longer clips from the review here:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp
My results were consistent with the original post. Interestingly, it took six minutes to convert one minute of 1080P video on my dual, quad core Dell SC1430. Oh Momma, 1080P is a resource hog!
End Update
Linux Media Player Results
Not so good. I was able to replay the video in mplayer fine, but vlc and avidemux2 hung half way, and xine played, though very choppily. Most of the above showed output errors of various kinds.
Next, I thought I'd see if its 1080P video output was usable at all in Cinelerra.
Cinelerra Results
Putting the original 1080P video into Cinelerra gave me a bunch of ugly errors, like so:
[h264 @ 0x2aaaaaf7e1b0]concealing 8160 DC, 8160 AC, 8160 MV errors [h264 @ 0x2aaaaaf7e1b0]AVC: Consumed only 161417 bytes instead of 161420 [h264 @ 0x2aaaaaf7e1b0]Unknown NAL code: 22
And the Cinelerra timeline and compositor windows weren't very promising either:
Convert!
So, I did what all good Cinelerra users do:
Convert the video to a usable format!
This command seems to produce very good output from a 1080P, H264 encoded video:
ffmpeg -i Video1.MOV -b 3000k -vcodec h264 -ab 256k -ar 44100 -acodec mpeg4aac -coder 1 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -me hex -subq 5 -me_range 16 -g 250 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 test.mp4
Let's take the command options apart:
-i Video1.MOV: my input file
-b 3000k: bitrate of 3000K
-vcodec h264: use the h264 output video compression algorithm
-ab 256k: use an audio bitrate of 256kbps
-ar 44100: use an audio sampling rate of 44.1Khz
-acodec mpeg4aac: use the Apple Audio Compression codec
Next set of options related specifically to x264
-coder 1: enables CABAC entropy encoder used by x264 (better compression)
-flags +loop: enables loop filter
-cmp +chroma
-partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8: improves quality by looking at inter/intra partitions (i b p)
-me hex: set motion estimation method to hex (range-2 search of six surrounding points)
-me_range 16: max range of motion search (hex is limited to 16), higher useful on HD
-subq 5: good medium for higher speed encoding
-g 250: group of pictures size
-keyint_min 25: set minimum length between IDR frames (keyframes)
-sc_threshold 40: adjusts sensitivity of x264's scenecut detection
-i_qfactor 0.71: qscale (quality) difference between I-frames and P-frames
Finally, the output:
test.mp4: my output file
I don't know much about those switches. Here are two good pages explaining at least the words, if not their meaning, of these cryptic options:
FFmpeg x264 mapping
x264 (H264) options
Update 10/25/2008
However, I did see a number of these errors again while doing the conversion:
[h264 @ 0x3c2d71ab30]AVC: Consumed only 197265 bytes instead of 197268ts/s
[h264 @ 0x3c2d71ab30]AVC: nal size 0
Searching the web, it seems that they may have to do with an old version of ffmpeg:
http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2007-October/012075.html
I am currently running the following: =============================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
=============================================================================
Removing:
ffmpeg x86_64 0.4.9-0.37.20070503.lvn7 installed 527 k
ffmpeg-libs x86_64 0.4.9-0.37.20070503.lvn7 installed 3.8 M
And it's going to be a pain to compile with external ffmpeg libraries. I think I will hold off on that for now.
End Update
The original (Video1.MOV) and converted (test.mp4) files were marketedly different sizes:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4214234 2008-10-23 23:15 test.mp4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23690277 2008-10-23 22:55 Video1.MOV
As read by mplayer with -identify option, diffing the original and converted file's properties showed no differences. Here is what mplayer thinks both files :
[mov] Video stream found, -vid 0
VIDEO: [avc1] 1920x1080 24bpp 30.000 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
ID_DEMUXER=mov
ID_VIDEO_FORMAT=avc1
ID_VIDEO_BITRATE=0
ID_VIDEO_WIDTH=1920
ID_VIDEO_HEIGHT=1080
ID_VIDEO_FPS=30.000
ID_VIDEO_ASPECT=0.0000
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==========================================================================
ID_VIDEO_CODEC=ffh264
Audio: no sound
Starting playback...
VDec: vo config request - 1920 x 1080 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied.
VO: [xv] 1920x1080 => 1920x1080 Planar YV12
This was odd, as mplayer spat out errors like this while playing the original:
[h264 @ 0xcfa780]AVC: Consumed only 197265 bytes instead of 197268 [h264 @ 0xcfa780]AVC: nal size 0
Once the file was converted, mplayer showed none of these errors.
Linux Media Player Results
I'm happy to say that the converted file replayed well in all the Linux media players, xine, mplayer and vlc, with the notable exception that playback in avidemux2 was slow.
In mplayer, the converted file did not show any errors, outside of a minor ASPECT warning error:
[ASPECT] Warning: No suitable new res found!
From a still, you can't really tell much of a difference..at least I couldn't. Note that the below images have been cropped for easier comparison, so they are not the full 1080P (1920x1280) resolution.
Original
Converted
The big test was bringing the converted file into Cinelerra. Since the OS level media players didn't have a problem, I was hopeful that Cinelerra wouldn't have any issues. Loading the file, I received no errors. However, playback was horrendous. I'd say that I got about 1fps in the compositor, though Preferences (Shift-P) showed that I was getting 32fps. Hmmm. Something definetly wrong here.
Final shot before I go to sleep
While in Cinelerra, I rendered the already converted 1080P content into one of the formats Cinelerra is happiest using, Quicktime using JPEG Photo compression. Rendering that video took no time at all (there was no audio track). Reloading the video back into Cinelerra, the file play more smoothly than the original conversion, but still had problems. I got 6fps. CPU on my dual, quad core was about 20% across all CPUs during playback (see below image). But memory use went through the roof! Swap was up too:
Woah! What's up with that? Well, looks like I have more testing to do. The possibility of gorgeous 1080P HD video has me slavering. Perhaps my eyes are too big for my stomach? As in everything Linux, this will take time.
to be continued..
the mule
Reference
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=35836
thanks Skottish!
Amazon: Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Canon Product Page
Canon Learning Center
Rob Galbraith Review
Manual
I was excited at the possibility of stellar high quality video at a somewhat reasonable price. See Vincent Laforet's great demo video here:
http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/10/10/without-further-ado-reverie/
So I downloaded test video output from a review of the preproduction cam here:
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos5dmarkII/page15.asp
Disclaimer
DPReview stated that these videos are direct from the cam, though according to Canon, the production model uses MPEG4 video compression. This does not jibe with my results, as I found by reviewing the output of mplayer and Quicktime on my MacBook that these test videos actually use H264 video compression. Strange. Of course, we'll see what the real deal is once the camera is available for purchase. Regardless, my testing procedures below maybe helpful for people using Linux and/or Cinelerra that need to work around similar problems.
Update 10/25/2008
I downloaded a couple longer clips from the review here:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp
My results were consistent with the original post. Interestingly, it took six minutes to convert one minute of 1080P video on my dual, quad core Dell SC1430. Oh Momma, 1080P is a resource hog!
End Update
Linux Media Player Results
Not so good. I was able to replay the video in mplayer fine, but vlc and avidemux2 hung half way, and xine played, though very choppily. Most of the above showed output errors of various kinds.
Next, I thought I'd see if its 1080P video output was usable at all in Cinelerra.
Cinelerra Results
Putting the original 1080P video into Cinelerra gave me a bunch of ugly errors, like so:
[h264 @ 0x2aaaaaf7e1b0]concealing 8160 DC, 8160 AC, 8160 MV errors [h264 @ 0x2aaaaaf7e1b0]AVC: Consumed only 161417 bytes instead of 161420 [h264 @ 0x2aaaaaf7e1b0]Unknown NAL code: 22
And the Cinelerra timeline and compositor windows weren't very promising either:
Convert!
So, I did what all good Cinelerra users do:
Convert the video to a usable format!
This command seems to produce very good output from a 1080P, H264 encoded video:
ffmpeg -i Video1.MOV -b 3000k -vcodec h264 -ab 256k -ar 44100 -acodec mpeg4aac -coder 1 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -me hex -subq 5 -me_range 16 -g 250 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 test.mp4
Let's take the command options apart:
-i Video1.MOV: my input file
-b 3000k: bitrate of 3000K
-vcodec h264: use the h264 output video compression algorithm
-ab 256k: use an audio bitrate of 256kbps
-ar 44100: use an audio sampling rate of 44.1Khz
-acodec mpeg4aac: use the Apple Audio Compression codec
Next set of options related specifically to x264
-coder 1: enables CABAC entropy encoder used by x264 (better compression)
-flags +loop: enables loop filter
-cmp +chroma
-partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8: improves quality by looking at inter/intra partitions (i b p)
-me hex: set motion estimation method to hex (range-2 search of six surrounding points)
-me_range 16: max range of motion search (hex is limited to 16), higher useful on HD
-subq 5: good medium for higher speed encoding
-g 250: group of pictures size
-keyint_min 25: set minimum length between IDR frames (keyframes)
-sc_threshold 40: adjusts sensitivity of x264's scenecut detection
-i_qfactor 0.71: qscale (quality) difference between I-frames and P-frames
Finally, the output:
test.mp4: my output file
I don't know much about those switches. Here are two good pages explaining at least the words, if not their meaning, of these cryptic options:
FFmpeg x264 mapping
x264 (H264) options
Update 10/25/2008
However, I did see a number of these errors again while doing the conversion:
[h264 @ 0x3c2d71ab30]AVC: Consumed only 197265 bytes instead of 197268ts/s
[h264 @ 0x3c2d71ab30]AVC: nal size 0
Searching the web, it seems that they may have to do with an old version of ffmpeg:
http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2007-October/012075.html
I am currently running the following: =============================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
=============================================================================
Removing:
ffmpeg x86_64 0.4.9-0.37.20070503.lvn7 installed 527 k
ffmpeg-libs x86_64 0.4.9-0.37.20070503.lvn7 installed 3.8 M
And it's going to be a pain to compile with external ffmpeg libraries. I think I will hold off on that for now.
End Update
The original (Video1.MOV) and converted (test.mp4) files were marketedly different sizes:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4214234 2008-10-23 23:15 test.mp4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23690277 2008-10-23 22:55 Video1.MOV
As read by mplayer with -identify option, diffing the original and converted file's properties showed no differences. Here is what mplayer thinks both files :
[mov] Video stream found, -vid 0
VIDEO: [avc1] 1920x1080 24bpp 30.000 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
ID_DEMUXER=mov
ID_VIDEO_FORMAT=avc1
ID_VIDEO_BITRATE=0
ID_VIDEO_WIDTH=1920
ID_VIDEO_HEIGHT=1080
ID_VIDEO_FPS=30.000
ID_VIDEO_ASPECT=0.0000
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==========================================================================
ID_VIDEO_CODEC=ffh264
Audio: no sound
Starting playback...
VDec: vo config request - 1920 x 1080 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied.
VO: [xv] 1920x1080 => 1920x1080 Planar YV12
This was odd, as mplayer spat out errors like this while playing the original:
[h264 @ 0xcfa780]AVC: Consumed only 197265 bytes instead of 197268 [h264 @ 0xcfa780]AVC: nal size 0
Once the file was converted, mplayer showed none of these errors.
Linux Media Player Results
I'm happy to say that the converted file replayed well in all the Linux media players, xine, mplayer and vlc, with the notable exception that playback in avidemux2 was slow.
In mplayer, the converted file did not show any errors, outside of a minor ASPECT warning error:
[ASPECT] Warning: No suitable new res found!
From a still, you can't really tell much of a difference..at least I couldn't. Note that the below images have been cropped for easier comparison, so they are not the full 1080P (1920x1280) resolution.
Original
Converted
The big test was bringing the converted file into Cinelerra. Since the OS level media players didn't have a problem, I was hopeful that Cinelerra wouldn't have any issues. Loading the file, I received no errors. However, playback was horrendous. I'd say that I got about 1fps in the compositor, though Preferences (Shift-P) showed that I was getting 32fps. Hmmm. Something definetly wrong here.
Final shot before I go to sleep
While in Cinelerra, I rendered the already converted 1080P content into one of the formats Cinelerra is happiest using, Quicktime using JPEG Photo compression. Rendering that video took no time at all (there was no audio track). Reloading the video back into Cinelerra, the file play more smoothly than the original conversion, but still had problems. I got 6fps. CPU on my dual, quad core was about 20% across all CPUs during playback (see below image). But memory use went through the roof! Swap was up too:
Woah! What's up with that? Well, looks like I have more testing to do. The possibility of gorgeous 1080P HD video has me slavering. Perhaps my eyes are too big for my stomach? As in everything Linux, this will take time.
to be continued..
the mule
Reference
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=35836
thanks Skottish!